<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258</id><updated>2011-09-04T01:24:08.837-04:00</updated><category term='The Wire'/><category term='adaptations'/><category term='Classics'/><category term='Homer'/><category term='politics'/><category term='Comics'/><category term='Star Wars'/><category term='Superman'/><category term='Musical Fiction'/><category term='Movies'/><category term='Batman'/><category term='Star Trek'/><category term='Theory'/><title type='text'>COUNTERFICTIONALS</title><subtitle type='html'>More fun than real life.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>29</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-1872585001479237132</id><published>2009-07-27T19:36:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-12T04:53:42.961-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>All Hail He Who Shoots First</title><content type='html'>This is delightful: &lt;a href="http://io9.com/5323912/what-if-greedo-really-shot-first"&gt;What if Greedo really &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; shot first&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-1872585001479237132?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1872585001479237132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1872585001479237132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2009/07/all-hail-he-who-shoots-first.html' title='All Hail He Who Shoots First'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-600399983785032228</id><published>2009-05-13T00:35:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2009-05-13T00:54:03.859-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Trek'/><title type='text'>An Inherently Counterfictional Star Trek</title><content type='html'>The whole intent of this most recent Star Trek film is to provide a counterfictional environment in which to tell stories using the classic Trek characters without the burden of hewing to continuity of the myriad existing properties.  Additionally, as the filmakers desired to get the entire crew together years earlier than within the existing timeline, new events must occur to thrust them together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basically, it's right up this blog's alley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mechanism which the filmmakers chose is reasonable in its basic conception, and perhaps the best available.  The execution of this mechanism, as well as some of the ramifications for future stories within this rebooted universe are the subject of this post.  This is in part critique of the movie, but moreover it's an examination of storytelling, physics and The Rules of the Game as established or discounted by the film.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those avoiding spoilers should stop reading NOW.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously, there are tons of spoilers below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay.  They must be gone.  Let's proceed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Prologue:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Physics and Star Trek.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One main difference between Star Trek and, say, Star Wars, is that Trek always tried to come up with a plausible explanation for things, even if it ended up wildly wrong.  In the original series (TOS) this technical continuity was sometimes as simple as a button on the helm doing the same thing each week.  And, given that hard science articles were probably a bit harder to track down during the writing of what began as a western in space, I tend to forgive a lot of the issues in The Original Series.  When you're breaking new ground, sometimes you misstep.  They tried.   And things did get better by the time The Next Generation (TNG) rolled around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For movies made today, with so much good science as close as the internet, I'm way less forgiving when physics are thrown out the window.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the thing.  Star Trek has always been intended to be our future.  It's not a fairy tale.  It needs to take place within a plausible version of our universe or it loses a fair amount of its power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Continuity and a reboot&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The writers of the movie committed to a choice which prevented them from giving over continuity altogether: Ambassador Spock travels from the 24th century.  Because they're using a character from the accepted timeline, there is an expectation that everything that is “canon” has actually occurred to Spock.  That is, he made the necessary calculations for time travel in “The Naked Time” in 15 minutes.  He died in ST II and Returned in ST III.  He traveled back in time in a rickety Bird of Prey in Star Trek IV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can understand adjusting issues of time ine to make this Star Trek relevant to us (clearly the Eugenics Wars of the '90s did not produce Khan.  Unless I missed it), but the essential events that make him the Spock we know and love must needs be true, otherwise this older fellow named Spock carries no weight when he tells us things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Part 1:  The Inciting Incident.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The incident which allows the reboot is a supernova in the 24th century.  Spock tells us that it needed to be stopped or it could destroy all life in the galaxy.  I buy this...  He's over simplifying, but a very powerful supernova could threaten life throughout Star Trek's alpha quadrant with its intense radiation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the star that novas cannot be the main star in the Romulan system, if we believe Spock's version of events.  If it were to suddenly go supernova, Romulus would have only minutes to react, and collapsing the star with a singularity would do the citizens no good; without starlight, they'd all be dead anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if we take Spock at his word, that he tried and failed to save Romulus, the star has to be at least a few lightmonths away from the Romulan system, which gives plenty of time to begin an evacuation.  As much as I admire Spock, were I a Romulan I'd make double sure of my survival and get off the planet while Spock works his magic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, as this is the Spock who has been through TOS, the movies, TNG, etc. he is fairly adept at time travel.  Failing to stop the Supernova by minutes or hours should be no problem for him, because he can zip back in time and make things better, especially considering he's in the fastest ship available, made by the Vulcan&lt;br /&gt;Science academy.  The one possible explanation would be that one cannot time travel with red matter, but that is proven false by subsequent events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's what I think may have happened: studies showed that the Romulan star was approaching Nova (there is precedent for monitoring things like this, I believe, in TNG episodes) and Spock planned to stabilize the star and save the Romulans from having to give up their home world.  But his plan went horribly wrong.  He caused the star to go supernova, thus destroying Romulus.  He had to act quickly to prevent the supernova from threatening the rest of the quadrant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This direct guilt makes the case for Nero's lust for vengeance even more compelling.  As it is, he is seeking retribution against someone who failed to be a hero, rather than someone directly responsible for an event.  Which makes Nero more crazy than he really needs to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, perhaps Spock's guilt for what he has done (having doomed both Romulus and Vulcan) plagues him, and has shaken his confidence in his ability to do rapid time travel calculations, etc.  This is why he accepts a self-imposed exile in this alternate timeline in the 23rd century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, as my brother points out: Spock could be lying.  For all we truly know, he may be the evil Spock from the mirror universe who has cleverly shaved his goatee.  Think about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Part 2: Troubles with the Physical Universe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the things that TOS and TNG were both pretty good at is conveying the notion that space is big.  Super big.  And empty.  It takes time to get places.  One of my huge problems with the Star Wars prequels is that because it takes very little time to get to places that are supposedly far flung, it shrinks that galaxy in an unfortunate way.  But in ST, we're used to hearing things like “The nearest ship is two weeks away.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's a compression of time in the new Star Trek that is difficult to parse; it seems that the journey from earth to Vulcan takes only a few hours.  It's conceivable that Kirk is unconscious in sick bay for quite some time, but that's not the “hurry, hurry” feel that is implied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Traditionally, Vulcan is 16 light years from Earth.  Even traveling at warp factor 9 on the TNG scale (where v=[W^(10/3)]c ) it would take the Enterprise around 4 days to cover that distance.  If that is reduced to mere hours, it compresses the Alpha quadrant in an uncomfortable way.  The mission to seek out and new life and new&lt;br /&gt;civilizations loses a lot of down time when you can go places so quickly, but it's often in the down time that we actually get to see non-action related character growth: the poker games in TNG, the holodeck, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it's not the specifics of how fast the ship can go that bother me; it's how it makes the vast emptiness of space less imposing.  You could say that they moved Vulcan closer, but the likelihood of Vulcan being closer to us than 16 light years given the universe we can observe in the 21st century is very small.  Again, ST should, as much as possible, take place in our future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This compression of space is carried over to the end of the film, when the Enterprise hides from Nero's ship in the atmosphere of Titan. While the image of the Starship emerging from the clouds is absolutely beautiful, the Enterprise is a hell of a long way from Nero.  If they wanted to hide within striking range, they should be behind the&lt;br /&gt;Earth's moon.  They've got a several hour trip from Saturn, unless they do some crazy point to point warp thing, which has traditionally been unacceptable in the ST universe.  But perhaps the filmmakers are changing that for this retelling.  If in this technological timeline it's perfectly acceptable to warp from one planet to another within a solar system, this point is moot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other physical problems, there's an inconsistency in the treatment of atmospheric reentry.  Kirk, Sulu and the ill-fated red-shirt are able to dive into Vulcan's atmosphere with no ill effects, while the escape pod that carries Kirk later shows definite thermal effects on reentry.  This is one decision that I just don't understand.  It would have been a relatively simple effect to give the space jumping crew members an exterior shell that burned off upon reentry, leaving them in their sleeker action suits by the time they had to open their chutes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Related to gravity and atmosphere: starships need to be built in space, not Iowa.  There is no plausible way to get the Enterprise off its moorings and into orbit.  The image of Kirk overlooking the construction is great, but I wish that writers had embraced the similarities with Star Wars on this point and given the farm boy a set of powerful binoculars which he could use to observe the orbital construction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are other physical points to nit pick, but I'll end with this: When an enormous piece of metal falls from a great height into San Francisco Bay right next to the Golden Gate Bridge, the bridge will not survive.  Even if it chunk of metal misses.  The bridge will be severely damaged, as will bits of the city, from the resulting ground and water shockwaves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Part 3: The Vulcans, The Romulans, The Klingons, and Star Fleet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the movie, it is a huge revelation to Captain Pike that Uhura overheard that 50 Klingon ships have been destroyed by Romulans.  If she had intercepted this message, every captain in Star Fleet should know about that.  Losing double digit starships is a big deal, no matter whose they are.  And it's especially significant if you're in a cold/occasionally hot war with the Empire in question.  Perhaps Nero's appearance significantly changed the Federation/Klingon dynamic: it doesn't matter.  Every captain needs to know that the Romulans suddenly have some serious fire power and are using it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In conventional Trek timeline, no one knew that Romulans looked like Vulcans until Balance of Terror.  Here, everyone knows what they look like.  I'm presuming that's because Nero showed up 25 years earlier, some of the survivors from the Kelvin's bridge saw that he was a Romulan who looked like a Vulcan and brought word back to Starfleet.  Then the Vulcans had to have a very awkward conversation with the rest&lt;br /&gt;of the Federation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This would actually explain a number of differences in Vulcan behavior.  Perhaps it made them a more solitary race, which prompted Spock to be taunted more for his human side, which in turn led him to embrace that nature more thoroughly in this timeline.  A significant shift in Vulcan behavior could also partially ameliorate some of the&lt;br /&gt;following.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was unclear to me on one viewing of the movie whether the report of a natural disaster on Vulcan is specifically related to the “lightning storm in space” that brings Spock's ship into the 23rd century, or if it is directly related to Nero beginning to drill.  I presume the former.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because the Vulcans should know what Nero is doing.  They have the most advanced science academy in the Fedearation, and they can't see that he's drilling into their planet?  Additionally, once it's detected that something untoward is happening, why don't the Vulcans begin to evacuate?  They're being attacked by one ship which is in&lt;br /&gt;geostationary orbit: surely a number of evacuation vessels could get thousands of people, if not millions, off the planet from other locations.  Nero wouldn't be able to destroy them all.  Additionally, there's no good reason presented why the Vulcan's don't try to do something about the planet drill themselves...  For all the talk afterward of a population of six billion, the whole place looks pretty abandoned in the shots before its destruction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The counter argument is that perhaps in this timeline the Vulcans feel that they are somehow deserving of punishment and are submitting to what comes.  The problem is, the argument isn't very logical.  It's also not particularly logical for the elders to be standing around big statues in meditation while the planet is in crisis.  They should be taking action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem with the treatment of the Vulcans continues into the denouement.  The Vulcans have been a space faring race for thousands, of years (this is not something that should be affected by the chosen reboot device), warp capable for at least hundreds.  It is absurd that only 10,000 were off planet at the time of attack; there should be millions in colonies around the alpha quadrant.   Unless, of course,&lt;br /&gt;the discovery of the common heritage with the Romulans caused them to withdraw to their home world.  Again, this is not a logical action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Part 4: Nero, his ship, singularities, and red matter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nero being a miner gives a casualness to his character which is great; he's not the stuffy captain we're used to seeing on the view screen. But here is where I come across another issue: yes, his ship is from the 24th century, but it's a mining ship.   How does a mining ship have such advanced weapons that it can take out dozens of Klingon warships?  In a one on one battle, I grant that it probably has an upper hand, not least due to advances in shield technology, but as portrayed in the movie it is nigh invincible, even against a great many ships.  If it were a TNG era Romulan warbird, I would feel its superiority totally justified (those things are both huge and Bad Ass), but it is a non-military vessel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also find it interesting that it is the creation of singularities that provide the answer to the exploding Supernova, given that Romulan ships in the TNG era (which again we must accept, since Ambassador Spock is from that timeline) are powered by singularities.  Perhaps the Red Matter is how they initiate the power for their ships.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, if all it takes is a little globule of it, why does Spock have such a huge orb of it on his ship?  It is a decision made for no other reason than aesthetics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the end of the movie, we have a few smallish black holes floating around Earth's neighborhood.  Which is why it's fortunate that Hawking radiation causes relatively small blackholes to evaporate over time. Otherwise they would float around warp corridors being the Worst Potholes Ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Part 5:  Star Trek and Alternate Timelines.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the past Star Trek has had a tendency to collapse alternate timelines into the existing narrative thread: ST IV, “Yesterday's Enterprise,” First Contact.  The only ongoing alternate timeline that I can think of offhand is the Dark Mirror universe, which occurred in TOS and on multiple occasions in DS9.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conventional Trek Universe must still exist in an alternate reality, because it's produced Ambassador Spock, who is clearly here...  But this reboot produces a branching which is, I believe, unique to the franchise.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I fully support having an alternate timeline, but the idea that it would essentially overwrite all of the Star Trek I know and love makes me a little queasy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As does the loss of Vulcan within this timeline.  Not having the Vulcan Science Academy should, theoretically, delay a great number of technological developments that were found in later branches of the ST Universe.  Perhaps it won't matter as much since the starting point of their technology is much shinier due to advanced special effects (and lens flare).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Closing:  The counterfictional crew&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While a number of the preceding issues are troubling, the movie's premise did successfully throw together the compelling characters that we know and love, while giving them slightly different back stories that will allow relationships to develop in unexpected ways.  The friendship between this Spock and this Kirk is based on very different grounds.  They're both rebels, and both somewhat more reckless than&lt;br /&gt;their conventional counterparts.  This Kirk is more inherently cocky, a bit more of an ass, and his story will be one of finding maturity.  He was always the youngest captain in Star Fleet.  Now he's bested himself by several years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What the movie does very well is show us why this crew is the best in the Federation, why they are deserving of our attention.  Each character gets a chance to show off mad skills, even if only briefly, and the casting is spot on.  I will gladly watch this crew on their counterfictional voyages...  And I'm fairly confident that now that they've got the complications of resetting the timeline out of the way, future outings will be far more satisfying to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Provided they stick to the rules they've established.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-600399983785032228?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/600399983785032228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=600399983785032228&amp;isPopup=true' title='40 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/600399983785032228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/600399983785032228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2009/05/inherently-counterfictional-star-trek.html' title='An Inherently Counterfictional Star Trek'/><author><name>Andrew</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13040430279429505640</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>40</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-8019941940763692500</id><published>2009-03-13T04:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-13T04:41:33.282-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>What's Wrong With Jedi?</title><content type='html'>I'm usually a pretty staunch defender of the underrated &lt;i&gt;Return of the Jedi&lt;/i&gt; -- but I find this &lt;a href="http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=features&amp;amp;Id=172"&gt;list of flaws unanswerable&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-8019941940763692500?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/8019941940763692500/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=8019941940763692500&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8019941940763692500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8019941940763692500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2009/03/whats-wrong-with-jedi.html' title='What&apos;s Wrong With Jedi?'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-4793344803108883913</id><published>2009-01-16T13:47:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-01-16T13:54:32.530-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>We all know why it wouldn't work</title><content type='html'>But it looks cool anyway: lightsaber nunchucks&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/P2CMaRSHz9E&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/P2CMaRSHz9E&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also of counterfictional nunchuck interest: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqGQ72bre30"&gt;Bruce Lee playing ping pong&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-4793344803108883913?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/4793344803108883913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=4793344803108883913&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4793344803108883913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4793344803108883913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2009/01/we-all-know-why-it-wouldnt-work.html' title='We all know why it wouldn&apos;t work'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-2723428071477002609</id><published>2008-11-14T13:46:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-11-14T14:26:00.009-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><title type='text'>Counterfictionals and the presidency</title><content type='html'>&lt;img src="http://www.marvel.com/i/content/3547165964_thumb1406139.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had missed this because I only read DC comics these days, but Stephen Colbert's clever but knowingly doomed campaign for the presidency (in South Carolina) &lt;a href="http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.3547.Colbert_for_President"&gt;survived and thrived in the Marvel Universe&lt;/a&gt;. In fact, he &lt;a href="http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5854.President_Colbert%3F_No_He_Can~apos~t"&gt;won the popular vote, but lost the Electoral College&lt;/a&gt;, because, according to Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada, "&lt;a href="http://blog.indecision2008.com/tag/marvel/"&gt;the Marvel Universe reflects what happens in the real world.&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now there's a counterfictionally loaded assertion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-2723428071477002609?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/2723428071477002609/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=2723428071477002609&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/2723428071477002609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/2723428071477002609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/11/counterfictionals-and-presidency.html' title='Counterfictionals and the presidency'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-622782081460390383</id><published>2008-11-12T10:11:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-11-12T10:23:40.531-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><title type='text'>Didn't we have a discussion here about the "real life" locations of Gotham and Metropolis?</title><content type='html'>Which is irrelevant for Marvel Comics, because instead of creating fictional cities, the vast majority of the events of the Marvel Universe take place in New York City. Well, at least they take place in the Earth 616 version of New York City, and to try to bridge the reality and fiction, the comic industry fan mag &lt;i&gt;Wizard&lt;/i&gt; has put together &lt;a href="http://www.wizarduniverse.com/040908marvelmanhattan.html"&gt;a map of important locations in the Marvel Universe New York City&lt;/a&gt;. Marvel themselves apparently did &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cully/437261189/sizes/l/"&gt;something similar&lt;/a&gt; a few years ago, and fans, of course, have done the leg work and &lt;a href="http://nyc.metblogs.com/2007/04/04/fictional-tourism-the-marvel-universe-nyc/"&gt;taken photos of the real-life NYC equivalents&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oddly enough, on the whole, I find Marvel's NYC far less interesting than Gotham or Metropolis. There's less room to play with, and while DC's fictional cities each have their own mythologies, Marvel very rarely makes use of the history of NYC in its storytelling. (It's worth noting that NYC actually exists in the DC Universe. Nightwing is hanging out there, at the moment.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Via &lt;a href="http://www.kottke.org/08/11/manhattan-comics-map"&gt;Kottke&lt;/a&gt;, shared by J. Lavolette.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-622782081460390383?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/622782081460390383/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=622782081460390383&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/622782081460390383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/622782081460390383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/11/didnt-we-have-discussion-here-about.html' title='Didn&apos;t we have a discussion here about the &quot;real life&quot; locations of Gotham and Metropolis?'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-4959491355376459289</id><published>2008-10-24T12:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-10-24T12:57:25.609-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>Luke Is Dumb</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/10/the_5_reasons_luke_skywalker_is_a_complete_idiot.php"&gt;The Five Reasons Luke Skywalker Is A Complete Idiot.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-4959491355376459289?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/4959491355376459289/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=4959491355376459289&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4959491355376459289'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4959491355376459289'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/10/luke-is-dumb.html' title='Luke Is Dumb'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-8406167579698573070</id><published>2008-09-21T18:55:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-21T18:57:40.126-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Batman &amp; Politics: part II</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opinion/21lethem.html"&gt;Jonathan Lethem on &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In its narrative gaps, its false depths leading nowhere in particular, its bogus grief over stakeless destruction and faked death, “The Dark Knight” echoes a civil discourse strained to helplessness by panic, overreaction and cultivated grievance. I began to feel this Batman wears his mask because he fears he’s a fake — and the story of his inauthenticity, the possibility of his unmasking, counts for more than any hope he offers of deliverance from evil. The Joker, on the other hand, exhibits his real face, his only face, and his origins are irrelevant, his presence as much a given as the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or Fear Itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Joker’s paradox, of course, is the same as that of 9/11 and its long aftermath: audacious transgression ought to call out of us an equal and adamant passion for love of truth and freedom, yet the fear he inspires instead drives us deep into passivity and silence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-8406167579698573070?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/8406167579698573070/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=8406167579698573070&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8406167579698573070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8406167579698573070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/09/batman-politics-part-ii.html' title='Batman &amp; Politics: part II'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-5343262935361092700</id><published>2008-08-24T13:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-24T13:30:13.452-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>A Massive Military Buildup</title><content type='html'>Where does the officers corps of the imperial army in Star Wars come from? In the prequels the Clone Wars are fought entirely by Jedi, drones, and the clone forebears of storm troopers. The clones even have separate names, ranks, responsibilities. But at the end of &lt;i&gt;Sith&lt;/i&gt; Tarkin is overseeing construction of the Death Star, dudes have uniforms, rank, a whole bureaucratic substructure independent of the Senate, the Jedi, even Vader. And there's no sense at all of the storm troopers in the Original Trilogy having any kind of officer corps.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part of the drama of the original trilogy is the tension between Vader and the uniformed non-clone military. Also, the fleet is composed along racist lines: no unhelmeted clones, no non-Caucasian aliens. (The Bounty Hunters are dismissed as "scum.") Where do these guys come from? Are they conscripts? The mobilized remains of a brownshirted imperial militia? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along with the retarded faceless droid armies in &lt;i&gt;Phantom Menace&lt;/i&gt; and after, not exploring the encroaching militarism of the Empire is a serious oversight. It's not just a political failure that produces the empire -- it's the seizure of the mechanisms of force and the elimination of the Jedi as a competitor on the legitimate use of violence. As someone interested in how armies work, and fictional representations of soldiers and officers, I love the intimations in the OT and feel that very large gap in that part of the story. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Armies I think have to be seen as an emerging theme of the comics as well, and in some sense superhero stories are inherently anti-military. Obviously the recent &lt;i&gt;Iron Man&lt;/i&gt; film addresses this head-on, but you also have The Hulk, Captain America, Nick Fury and SHIELD, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a utopian imagination at work whereby we seem to dream of a world where right-minded, ultrapowerful civil servants (whether Supermen or Jedi) eliminate the need for standing armies, traditional manifestations of force, and hostile international/intergalactic relations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The great counterexample might be the Green Lantern Corps, a kind of armed invisible UN that is designed to keep the peace but also act as a kind of nuclear deterrent against interplanetary (as opposed to merely global and local) aggression. The Green Lanterns effectively seem to recognize each planet/sector as sovereign and world wars as local affairs in which they need not interfere. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so, as with Star Trek, international or interethnic conflicts get allegorized as conflicts between actual aliens, while Superman, Batman, and friends are available to deal with local petty crime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Star Wars may be the only manifestation of an honest-to-goodness civil war where the conflict between superhuman beings (the Sith and Jedi) are played against the backdrop of a purely human conflict between two organized armies. The events intersect but they do not determine one another. Even the destruction of the second Death Star has nothing to do with the Jedi or the Force really; it's Ewoks and rebels killing storm troopers, and a non-Force wielding fleet whomping the Death Star and Imperial troops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So: how do these armies get started? (The rebel army is even more of a mystery.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-5343262935361092700?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/5343262935361092700/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=5343262935361092700&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5343262935361092700'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5343262935361092700'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/massive-military-buildup.html' title='A Massive Military Buildup'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-2778962321295583783</id><published>2008-08-14T18:22:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-14T18:24:45.487-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theory'/><title type='text'>Why Superheroes and Politics Don't Mix</title><content type='html'>John August, "&lt;a href="http://johnaugust.com/archives/2008/comic-politic"&gt;Aquaman is a Pescepublican&lt;/a&gt;":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Recent articles about the political leanings of popular comic book characters got me thinking about the uncanny valley between fictional and real-world ideologies. We’re happy to have characters speak in broad terms — “With great power comes great responsibility” — but the minute they start referring to specific issues, we become very uncomfortable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does The Flash feel about immigration? Is Wolverine pro-choice? Does Black Canary support the First Amendment rights of hate groups? We don’t know, and really don’t want to know....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’d argue that the thematic success of comic book characters, and comic book storylines, comes from how closely they can approach the line separating Real from Too Real, without crossing it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-2778962321295583783?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/2778962321295583783/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=2778962321295583783&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/2778962321295583783'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/2778962321295583783'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/why-superheroes-and-politics-dont-mix.html' title='Why Superheroes and Politics Don&apos;t Mix'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-1312495621442654355</id><published>2008-08-11T23:54:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-13T23:39:08.996-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Musical Fiction'/><title type='text'>Up in the sky! It's a band! No, it's a supergroup!</title><content type='html'>Carl Newman on guitar. Neko Case on vocals and tambourine. Dan Bejar on vocals and some weird gourd-like rhumba shaker. Yep, that's the makings of the Canadian supergroup &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Pornographers"&gt;The New Pornographers&lt;/a&gt;. They've produced some of the finest pop albums of the last decade and I can't imagine a modern musical landscape without them. But who in the world would have ever predicted that this precise collection of folks (including Blaine Thurier, Todd Fancey, Kurt Dahle, and Kathryn Calder) would get together and make such sweet noise?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our earlier post on &lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/countermusicals.html"&gt;countermusicals&lt;/a&gt; attempted to open the door of our fictional musings to explorations of fiction and counterfiction in music. A question posed there, and a question that is posed daily amongst fervent music geeks, was, and is: If you could construct your own supergroup of existing musicians, alive or dead, who would you choose and how would you arrange them? Much like crossover comics where fans finally get to see Spiderman team up with Green Lantern (I honestly don't know if that ever actually happened) for a token adventure, imaginary supergroups are your chance to bring your favorite musical worlds (pop or otherwise) together to play in tandem and fulfill your fantasies. Take your favorite guitar player and place him/her in front of your favorite drummer, behind your favorite piano player, your favorite harpsichordist, next to your favorite avant-garde vocalist. There are no rules. Just be sure to specify Beatles or Wings-era McCartney if you choose to go down that path.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To start things off, let's see what kind of band I can piece together. On guitar I'm tempted to go left with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Greenwood"&gt;Johnny Greenwood&lt;/a&gt; or right with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Martsch"&gt;Doug Martsch&lt;/a&gt;, but I think my best bet is with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Mascis"&gt;J Mascis&lt;/a&gt;. I want there to be some cohesion in my group (sonic cohesion, not play-well-with-others cohesion), so I'll forgo obvious vocalist choices like &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjork"&gt;Björk&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kozelek"&gt;Mark Kozelek&lt;/a&gt; and just stick with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pollard"&gt;Robert Pollard&lt;/a&gt; (circa &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propeller_(album)"&gt;1992&lt;/a&gt;). (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walkmen"&gt;Hamilton Leithauser&lt;/a&gt; a close second there for vocals.) Drums are easy with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Kotche"&gt;Glenn Kotche&lt;/a&gt;. We'll place &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Foster"&gt;Kathy Foster&lt;/a&gt; on bass guitar for sheer hotness, but also for excessive radness. To round out the sound, I'll also put &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Krug"&gt;Spencer Krug&lt;/a&gt; on the keyboard, but we'll restrict him to his more straight-ahead playing of Wolf Parade as opposed to his explorative Sunset Rubdown work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How's that? Now you try.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-1312495621442654355?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/1312495621442654355/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=1312495621442654355&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1312495621442654355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1312495621442654355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/up-in-sky-its-band-no-its-supergroup.html' title='Up in the sky! It&apos;s a band! No, it&apos;s a supergroup!'/><author><name>Brandon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675307203977452486</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_790JI4wvmPI/R6yskKlfAdI/AAAAAAAAAKc/Y5ai7SY9lx8/S220/BKIMG3.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-5718543281285304992</id><published>2008-08-07T17:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-07T17:31:20.696-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Movies'/><title type='text'>Countertitulars</title><content type='html'>See! &lt;a href="http://www.parallelfilmguide.com/index.php?title=Main_Page"&gt;The Parallel Universe Film Guide&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-5718543281285304992?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/5718543281285304992/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=5718543281285304992&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5718543281285304992'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5718543281285304992'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/countertitulars.html' title='Countertitulars'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-9116199834801264278</id><published>2008-08-07T13:49:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-07T17:31:36.601-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>But would they want to be a famous novelist?</title><content type='html'>When asked what superhero they'd most like to be by Entertainment Weekly, &lt;a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/07/mccain-obama-both-want-to-be-the-dark-knight/#more-11560"&gt;John McCain and Barack Obama both said Batman&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-9116199834801264278?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/9116199834801264278/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=9116199834801264278&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/9116199834801264278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/9116199834801264278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/but-would-they-want-to-be-famous.html' title='But would they want to be a famous novelist?'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-8487444038728174429</id><published>2008-08-07T12:06:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-07T13:19:51.960-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Musical Fiction'/><title type='text'>Countermusicals</title><content type='html'>Back in May of this year, Scarlett Johansson released an album titled &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_I_Lay_My_Head"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anywhere I Lay My Head&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; featuring the actress's interpretation of ten Tom Waits songs. When the album began generating headlines, I remember Tim suggesting that he would be much more enthusiastic about an album of a slightly different sort. (The discussion actually dates back to the November 2006 release of the Joanna Newsom album &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_%28album%29"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ys&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.) Tim's observation was that a great many songs by Joanna Newsom were actually ready-made for cover treatment by Waits -- the song we kept coming back to was "Sawdust and Diamonds." On the flip-side, it also seemed fitting for Newsom to try her hand with some of Waits' song catalog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Waits vs. Newsom discussion was &lt;a href="http://blackteeshirt.blogspot.com/2008/08/cemetery-polka.html"&gt;refueled&lt;/a&gt; this week by NPR's "All Songs Considered" concert series release of a &lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92916923"&gt;recording&lt;/a&gt; of an epic Tom Waits performance at the Fox Theater in Atlanta. The concert recording and Waits' performance was so remarkable that Tim and I couldn't help but fantasize further about the notion of a collaboration of covers between Waits and Newsom. With the recent birth of this very blog, there was an immediate connection to be drawn between Counterfictionals and what we might now dub as "Countermusicals." In the spirit of what Counterfictionals has set out to do, I see a lot of fertile territory out there for documenting those discussions we have all had so many times before:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you could create your dream supergroup, who would be in the lineup? Who is on drums? Vocals? Lead guitar? Bass?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;What band or artist do you wish was still around making music today or what artist vanished before their potential creative zenith? Nick Drake? Kurt Cobain? What music would they be making now?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Beatles? Dream up any sort of scenario with these guys and then just ask the magic question of "What if?"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To demonstrate -- not that I need to -- let's go back to the example Waits and Newsom. In plotting our dream album of cover songs, we managed to plot Waits interpreting "Sawdust and Diamonds" and then Newsom putting some harp over her singing "Sixteen Shells From A Thirty-Ought Six." Beautiful. My favorite Waits song, though, is most certainly "Downtown Train." I suggested to Tim that this would be a track that I'd love to see covered by Newsom. Tim responded in saying perhaps a female vocalist might actually get the gender (assuming heterosexual relationships) right on "Downtown Train." The lyrics as sung by Waits:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Outside another yellow moon&lt;br /&gt;punched a hole in the nighttime, yes&lt;br /&gt;I climb through the window and down the street&lt;br /&gt;shining like a new dime&lt;br /&gt;the downtown trains are full with all those Brooklyn girls&lt;br /&gt;they try so hard to break out of their little worlds&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You wave your hand and they scatter like crows&lt;br /&gt;they have nothing that will ever capture your heart&lt;br /&gt;theyr'e just thorns without the rose&lt;br /&gt;be careful of them in the dark&lt;br /&gt;oh if I was the one&lt;br /&gt;you chose to be your only one&lt;br /&gt;oh baby can't you hear me now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will I see you tonight&lt;br /&gt;on a downtown train&lt;br /&gt;every night is just the same&lt;br /&gt;you leave me lonely now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know your window and I know it's late&lt;br /&gt;I know your stairs and your doorway&lt;br /&gt;I walk down your street and past your gate&lt;br /&gt;I stand by the light at the four way&lt;br /&gt;you watch them as they fall&lt;br /&gt;they all have heart attacks&lt;br /&gt;they stay at the carnival&lt;br /&gt;but they'll never win you back&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will I see you tonight on a downtown train&lt;br /&gt;where every night is just the same you leave me lonely&lt;br /&gt;will I see you tonight on a downtown train&lt;br /&gt;all of my dreams just fall like rain&lt;br /&gt;all upon a downtown train&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Considering that "Downtown Train" hit #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1989 only after being &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Train"&gt;covered&lt;/a&gt; by Rod Stewart, I think this is a poetic jumping-off point for the discussion on Countermusicals. Rod Stewart wasn't afraid to ask "What if?" and it garnered him a #3 hit. That's probably not a big deal for Rod, but as far as opening the floodgates of this blog, it might be a big deal for me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-8487444038728174429?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/8487444038728174429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=8487444038728174429&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8487444038728174429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8487444038728174429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/countermusicals.html' title='Countermusicals'/><author><name>Brandon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675307203977452486</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_790JI4wvmPI/R6yskKlfAdI/AAAAAAAAAKc/Y5ai7SY9lx8/S220/BKIMG3.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-3705326814720041287</id><published>2008-08-06T12:54:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-06T13:01:03.968-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>On a slightly different note. . .</title><content type='html'>Chuck Dixon (DC Comics writer) on &lt;a href="http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Batman.html"&gt;Batman's religion&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Graham Nolan and I had an ongoing argument about whether Bruce was raised Catholic or Protestant. I recently conceded to Graham than he must be Catholic. No Protestant ever suffered guilt the way Bruce does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what would you do with religion in a comic-book universe? (This may be a more interesting question in the DC universe than the Marvel universe, where all the pre-Christian deities&amp;mdash;Zeus, Ra, Odin&amp;mdash;are semi-active characters.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What religion is your favorite character? (Click &lt;a href="http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_book_religion.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for a cheat sheet.) How do you know and how does it affect how he/she operates? (Keep in mind for the purposes of this question, "religion" is cultural as well as theological.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-3705326814720041287?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/3705326814720041287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=3705326814720041287&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3705326814720041287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3705326814720041287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/on-slightly-different-note.html' title='On a slightly different note. . .'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-7270464905187076241</id><published>2008-08-06T12:45:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-06T12:48:18.464-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Superman'/><title type='text'>Superman orgasm=apocalypse</title><content type='html'>A humorous thought experiment on the Man of Steel's reproductive capabilities: &lt;a href="http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html"&gt;"Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex"&lt;/a&gt; by Larry Niven&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;One should not think of Superman as a Peeping Tom. A biological ability must be used. As a child Superman may never have known that things had surfaces, until he learned to suppress his X-ray vision. If millions of people tend shamelessly to wear clothing with no lead in the weave, that is hardly Superman's fault.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-7270464905187076241?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/7270464905187076241/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=7270464905187076241&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/7270464905187076241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/7270464905187076241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/08/superman-orgasmapocalypse.html' title='Superman orgasm=apocalypse'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-3457558415394747417</id><published>2008-07-31T10:52:00.012-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-01T00:43:19.043-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Wire'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Batman Little</title><content type='html'>Is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Little"&gt;Omar Little&lt;/a&gt; the "Batman" of &lt;i&gt;The Wire&lt;/i&gt;? This is fresh in my mind since last night I attended a panel discussion "The Making of &lt;i&gt;The Wire&lt;/i&gt;" at the New York Times building, sponsored by the &lt;a href="http://www.movingimage.us/site/site.php"&gt;Museum of the Moving Image&lt;/a&gt;, where cast and crew discussed the epic HBO drama. (The panel included David Simon, Richard Price, Seth Gilliam, Clark Johnson, Wendell Pierce, and Clarke Peters.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back to my question, though. Omar, by his own admission, is "all in the game" whereby his life revolves around his participation in Baltimore's drug trade. From a law-and-order standpoint, Omar is a villain because he is quick to kill, steal, and sell drugs. From a heroic standpoint, however, Omar operates by a strict code: Stealing a line directly from Bunk Moreland, Omar says "A man's got to have a code." Omar never puts his gun  on a civilian or non-participant in "the game." Omar flips out when the Barksdale crew breaks the longstanding sabbath ceasefire and nearly kill his grandmother on her way to church. For most of the series, Omar is also a vigilante driven by revenge -- revenge against the Barksdales for the death of Brandon Wright, revenge against Stringer Bell for setting him up, revenge against Marlo Stanfield for his attempted framing of Omar for murder, and so on. In addition to his vigilante status, he is also often working in cooperation with the Baltimore police, or doing what he can on their behalf as he lurks in the shadows of the drug corners pursuing his own agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The portrait painted above, for me, draws some clear parallels to our &lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/would-you-rather.html"&gt;friend&lt;/a&gt; Batman. Batman has an agenda of vengeance, though he operates by a strict code. That code generally means Batman only comes into contact with those who are willfully involved in "the game." Batman colludes with the police, but generally only on his own terms and, again, within his own code of conduct. (Omar is occasionally persuaded against his will to cooperate with the police, but more often than not, when the Baltimore detectives need Omar's help, they are forced to appeal to Omar's own sense of justice and morality in order to persuade him to do what they need him to do. Please recall the fucking brilliant &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmgghlEagA"&gt;scene&lt;/a&gt; between Omar and Bunk to illustrate this point.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like Batman, because of how he operates, Omar is often without friends, or friends he can trust, and he must live in hiding. Omar's headquarters, like the Bat Cave, are usually in abandoned row houses or tenements. Omar doesn't have an elaborate array of computers or gadgets, but he does have the best and biggest guns in town, and he usually travels by way of an unmarked vehicle (see point #3 of Gavin's &lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lets-start-with-bat.html"&gt;primer&lt;/a&gt; on the Bat) such as a utility van or taxi cab. Omar also conducts his business under a cloak, whether it's something immediately evocative of Batman, such as his black duster jacket, or something more simple as a hooded sweatshirt. (Or sometimes Omar's disguises become more complex, like when he dresses up as an old man in a wheelchair in order to gain access to a Barksdale drug house.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, toward the latter stages of the series, just saying Omar's name on the streets of Baltimore would incite immediate fear and chaos as small-time drug dealers would immediately run in the opposite direction or just throw their drugs into the street if they heard or saw Omar coming their way. How many crooks has Batman defeated simply by evoking his name or image? Both Omar and Batman learn to use their enemy's fear against them, usually to the point where all they have to do is arrive on the scene to decide the outcome.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what about Omar's many &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Little_and_associates#Brandon_Wright"&gt;sidekicks&lt;/a&gt;, or Robins? (See Gavin's &lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lets-start-with-bat.html"&gt;point #5&lt;/a&gt;.) The death of his first Robin, Brandon Wright, is what first sends Omar over the edge. But Omar can't last long without a sidekick, so in subsequent seasons, he recruits "Brandon replacements" -- Dante, Renaldo -- who fill the same sidekick role, but never quite fill Brandon's shoes. And Omar's sexual relationships with his sidekicks further complicate his relationships with them. And we also learn that Omar, like Batman, usually has a plan to kill them all if need be -- see Dante.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The more I think about, the more parallels I begin to see. What did I miss?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-3457558415394747417?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/3457558415394747417/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=3457558415394747417&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3457558415394747417'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3457558415394747417'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/batman-little.html' title='Batman Little'/><author><name>Brandon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675307203977452486</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_790JI4wvmPI/R6yskKlfAdI/AAAAAAAAAKc/Y5ai7SY9lx8/S220/BKIMG3.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-4673085712575478889</id><published>2008-07-30T16:53:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T17:34:56.109-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Would you rather?</title><content type='html'>One of my favorite podcasts, &lt;a href="http://maximumfun.org/listen.htm"&gt;Jordan, Jesse, Go!&lt;/a&gt;, has a reoccurring game called "Would You Rather?" Last November, in Episode 45, hosts Jesse Thorn and Jordan Morris tackle a rather "counterfictional" question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would you rather. . .&lt;br /&gt;A. Be a great and celebrated novelist, or&lt;br /&gt;B. Be friends with Batman?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Given the proclivities of the contributors of this blog, I thought it would be an interesting question to also pose here.  What do you think?  Would you rather?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some important points that you will want to consider before making your decision:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;What era Batman? We should assume a "modern era" Batman, but given the scope of literature, from year one to one hundred, I'm not certain what "modern era" is supposed to mean to us.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Is friendship with Alfred implied here?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;In terms of being a novelist, will you be a popular, or rather a literary novelist? Let's assume that you can choose your own path here, whether you fancy the life of James Patterson or Philip Roth.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;But, really, more questions about Batman. Would you have access to all things Batman? Can you bring dates into the Bat Cave? Will you be introduced to the Justice League? Can you help out with the crime fighting?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jesse and Jordan bring up the astute point that being friends with Bruce Wayne immediately grants you access to anything. You're plugged into the social scene! Do you want to meet Al Gore? Well, just have your pal Bruce set up a benefit dinner and send the private jet. A counterpoint, however, is thinking of what bad things come with being plugged into the Batman world. Will becoming friends with Batman make you a target of the Penguin? Of course it will.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;Will Batman help you move? Pick you up from the airport? Would he be too tired to hang out on the weekends?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the choice is clear, but is it too obvious?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-4673085712575478889?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/4673085712575478889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=4673085712575478889&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4673085712575478889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4673085712575478889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/would-you-rather.html' title='Would you rather?'/><author><name>Brandon</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13675307203977452486</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='23' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_790JI4wvmPI/R6yskKlfAdI/AAAAAAAAAKc/Y5ai7SY9lx8/S220/BKIMG3.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-4740850589592959889</id><published>2008-07-30T10:02:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T10:42:01.757-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='adaptations'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Let's talk about the movie</title><content type='html'>All right, I think we're past the point where we have to worry about spoilers, but if you haven't seen "The Dark Knight" yet, then you might want to hold off on reading this post, because I plan to talk with no concern for giving away plot points, large or small. On the other hand, I saw the movie a week ago, so my memory might be a touch fuzzy in places.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to make the argument that, as much as I enjoyed the movie, that I came away with the conclusion that the Batman, as Batman, simply doesn't work on the big screen, although, strangely enough, the Joker does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" work largely because Christian Bale is a good enough actor to make you forget that he isn't really playing Batman. While Nolan and Bale deserve credit for sticking to point #2 of my "&lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lets-start-with-bat.html"&gt;Batman Best Practices&lt;/a&gt;," Nearly all of the Batman movies filmed to date, whether Burton, Schumacher, or Nolan, seem to deal with Bruce Wayne's angst over putting on the mask, and his desire to create a situation in which he wouldn't have to be the Batman any more. In Batman as Batman, this conflict doesn't make any sense. It is strongly hinted that even if Bruce Wayne's parent's hadn't been killed, he would have been something like the Batman. Maybe not quite so dark or violent, but every bit as obsessive over the application of his own sense of right and wrong. (This idea is contained in both points #1 and #4. The death of Thomas and Martha Wayne &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;isn't&lt;/span&gt; what made Bruce Wayne the Batman. He did that to himself.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are elements of the Batman that simply don't work in a live-action summer blockbuster. Not since Tim Burton's 1989 "Batman" has any film even much bothered to try to show Batman as a detective, and Nolan's Batman never really has to figure anything out. Ra's Al Ghul just shows up at his house, he discovers the Scarecrow's operation by accident after following Rachel Dawes to Arkham, and he's so helpless in dealing with the Joker that he has to create a universal surveillance system in order to find him. Nolan's Batman is more of a special-ops soldier. He's really good at designing small tactical operations, like when he pulls the crooked banker out of his building in Hong Kong, but he's not a detective. (But who can imagine a "detective" Batman movie? There are plenty of great detective television shows and films, but Batman as Sherlock Holmes, throwing hardly a single punch, probably wouldn't pack the theaters.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, beyond the fact that point #1 of my best practices cuts off the "should I be Batman" conflict that nearly every film seems to feel the need to use, no actor would ever agree to use the comics' primary visual cue of the point: Wayne wears the Batman mask even when he's hanging out by himself in the Batcave. In real life, as an actor on a film set, that would be damn uncomfortable, and would eliminate most of the actor's face time. Whatever you want to say about Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, and Bale, none of them are Lon Cheney, willing to disappear behind makeup for an entire film.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Side point, or addendum to best practices, call it point 3.1&amp;mdash;the bat-suit is not armor! In the modern comics, Wayne wears kevlar beneath the costume, but it should be closer to cloth than plastic. Light, slient, and not cumbersome. This, again, may simply not work on screen.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In opposition to all this, it's interesting how faithful Nolan's Joker is to the comics, and the way that they are able to adapt key elements of the comics in realistic ways. In the modern cable/broadcast/satellite TV world, I don't know that it makes sense for the Joker to hijack every TV set in Gotham to announce his crimes, but Nolan makes an excellent choice in having the Joker videotape himself doing terrible things to people and sending it to the news outlets. the Joker doesn't have to hijack the broadcast when the networks are more than happy to air the footage of their own volition. It's a chilling commentary on our contemporary media culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other key elements that Nolan is able to make use of are the Joker having a "multiple choice" past as shown by his infinitely adaptable "how I got these scars" story, and his aptitude for disguises. On the other hand, a Joker who is ultimately unwilling to kill the Batman doesn't make any sense. I'm willing to buy the "I don't want to kill you. You complete me" line as a lie containing a deeper truth from a character who is prone to such things, but the Joker's "you won't kill me, I won't kill you" when he's hanging upside down at the end doesn't make sense, and is the opposite of the long-delayed but ultimately inevitable dance of death that makes Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke" work. The Joker &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;needs&lt;/span&gt; the Batman in order to exist AND he wants to kill the Batman AND he wants the Batman to kill him. That contradiction is at the root of his insanity, and it's what makes the character run.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-4740850589592959889?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/4740850589592959889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=4740850589592959889&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4740850589592959889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/4740850589592959889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lets-talk-about-movie.html' title='Let&apos;s talk about the movie'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-998951096407417816</id><published>2008-07-29T23:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T00:08:24.939-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>The Star Wars Prequels, Pt. 3: Costumes and Cities</title><content type='html'>Jedi knights don't dress like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_l3k0KC2I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/BMQZGsG1sV0/s1600-h/136041mace+windu.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="border: 0pt none ; background-color: transparent; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_l3k0KC2I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/JXxgmGEzCtQ/s320-R/136041mace+windu.jpg" style="border: 0pt none ;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's the outfit Obi-Wan wears when he's playing the old hermit on Tattoine. It's also how Luke's uncle dresses; essentially, it's the "Tattoine man" uniform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jedi knights dress like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_mxYD-McI/AAAAAAAAAFY/LtO11ThG9y0/s1600-h/Luke_skywalker.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="border: 0pt none ; background-color: transparent; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_mxYD-McI/AAAAAAAAAFY/5hVoJ1v6Zy0/s400-R/Luke_skywalker.jpg" style="border: 0pt none ;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_nAPA9dLI/AAAAAAAAAFg/rPUnWB7bY4k/s1600-h/luke+skywalker.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="border: 0pt none ; background-color: transparent; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_nAPA9dLI/AAAAAAAAAFg/5ulsHvyfV4A/s400-R/luke+skywalker.jpg" style="border: 0pt none ;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;Imagine Sam Jackson done up like &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="text-align: left; clear: both;"&gt;Also, one of the major differences between the Star Wars prequels and the original trilogy is that most of the action in the former takes place in beautiful, classical cities, while in the latter, it's almost all space stations, ships, and very sparsely populated planets and their spaceports. I like the contrast, but I think it demands explanation. When and why does the Empire seem to decamp, permanently spreading its power through its fleet? The Death Star isn't just a planet-destroying weapon: it's also a mobile and nearly impregnable fortress to project power. In the early stages of the rebellion, did the Imperial fleet level cities? In the absence of the Jedi, did social order dissolve? Did the Emperor grow paranoid like Dick Cheney? These questions demand answers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-998951096407417816?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/998951096407417816/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=998951096407417816&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/998951096407417816'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/998951096407417816'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/star-wars-prequels-pt-3-costumes-and.html' title='The Star Wars Prequels, Pt. 3: Costumes and Cities'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp1.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SI_l3k0KC2I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/JXxgmGEzCtQ/s72-Rc/136041mace+windu.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-3078178645945383016</id><published>2008-07-29T18:10:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T18:33:54.882-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>Star Wars Prequels, Pt. 2: The Droids</title><content type='html'>One point I mentioned in &lt;a href="http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/star-wars-prequels.html"&gt;my last post on the prequels&lt;/a&gt; deserves a little expansion. I argued that it's implausible for Anakin to have built Threepio as "a protocol droid to help Mom." Unless Mom is working with binary load lifters or doing serious intergalactic training, this doesn't make much sense. Threepio is, as he says himself in Ep. IV, singularly unsuited (materially, temperamentally, operationally) for a desert climate. And we see lots of droids in the original Trilogy who look basically identical to Threepio. Anakin building a standard protocol droid from a kit just doesn't seem very impressive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anakin building R2-D2 makes a lot more sense. For one thing, R2 knows his way around Tatooine. It seems even in Ep. IV that he's been there before. For another, Anakin is a slave, mechanic, and pilot. He needs a versatile Astro droid a lot more than he needs a protocol droid. It would be a great nod back to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jedi&lt;/span&gt; if at some point in the first prequel, R2 were carrying a tray of drinks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So where does Threepio come from? Well, if you take my general treatment of Prequel #1, where Padme discovers the clone army and is met by Obi-Wan, Qui-Gonn, and a young Anakin, we still have to account for how Padme is able to contact Yoda and the Jedi Council to send for help. So, it's obvious -- she sends the message by way of her protocol droid, C-Threepio, who then (much to his chagrin) has to guide the two Jedi, the pilot Anakin, and his sarcastic droid R2 back to her location, where they face off against Darth Maul, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, I think, would definitively solve the Jar-Jar problem. Jar-Jar Binks's function, particularly in the first of the prequels is essentially identical to Threepio's in Ep. IV (and if he'd been well received, probably would have continued to be basically identical throughout). He's a sometimes obnoxious coward who becomes a kind of reluctant hero, and serves as comic relief. The only problem is that he's unsympathetic, poorly animated, unfunny, and more than a little racist. So why not go with the tried and true? Threepio, especially in his back-and-forth with R2, can be both the comic relief and the familiar still points around which you re-construct this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This also, I think, restores R2 and Threepio to the central role they play in the original trilogy, and explains their bond to each other and to Luke and Leia. R2 is their father's droid; Threepio is their mother's. In their own way, the two droids are both siblings, children, and parents to the family Skywalker.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P.S.: You might note that I slid Qui-Gonn back into the story, after I'd basically cut him out in my first treatment. Well, I had a chance to watch &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Phantom Menace&lt;/span&gt; again a couple of days ago, and Qui-Gonn is the best thing in the movie. He's the only person in the entire trilogy who actually seems like a Jedi: an intelligent, humane warrior with a warm sense of humor, in the best tradition of Obi-Wan in Ep. IV. And Liam Neeson can act. I would still cast Qui-Gonn as the partner, not the teacher of Obi-Wan -- Obi-Wan always says that Yoda is his teacher, and Ben has got to get old as hell somehow -- who discovers and begins to train Anakin, who is killed by Darth Maul and bequeaths his training to Obi-Wan, who Yoda doesn't think is ready. (Not because he's young, but because he's reckless -- "So was I, if you remember.") You can also, assuming that Padme is somewhere between Obi-Wan and Anakin in age, but if they're all adults, set up the jealousy that helps Anakin foster his resentment. The second movie would then show how Obi-Wan fails in his mentoring of Anakin, Anakin slips to the dark side, they duel, and... you know the rest.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-3078178645945383016?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/3078178645945383016/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=3078178645945383016&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3078178645945383016'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3078178645945383016'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/star-wars-prequels-pt-2-droids.html' title='Star Wars Prequels, Pt. 2: The Droids'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-1051351997553050835</id><published>2008-07-28T15:53:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-28T16:18:48.914-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Is Batman a conservative?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072508/content/01125114.guest.html"&gt;Rush Limbaugh thinks so.&lt;/a&gt; (Warning: link will take you to Rush Limbaugh's web site.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, the comparison is more than a little strained.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As Gary Oldman's Commissioner Gordon says of the hated and hunted Batman, 'He has to run away -- because we have to chase him.'  That's real moral complexity. And when our artistic community is ready to show that sometimes men must kill in order to preserve life; that sometimes they must violate their values in order to maintain those values; and that while movie stars may strut in the bright light of our adulation for pretending to be heroes, true heroes often must slink in the shadows, slump-shouldered and despised -- then and only then will we be able to pay President Bush his due and make good and true films about the war on terror.  Perhaps that's when Hollywood conservatives will be able to take off their masks and speak plainly in the light of day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again, Frank Miller is really good for a take on Batman as something of a right-winger, but it has nothing in common with what Limbaugh describes. Batman &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; kills. Batman struggles constantly with his conscience, but he never "violates his values." The Batman identity is not a compromise. It is an end in itself. Bruce Wayne never had any interest in becoming a cop, and he has no desire to "take off [his] mask and speak plainly in the light of day."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Batman is not a good man driven underground. In many ways, he is a bad man, but he is the best of bad men. Most importantly, Batman is not the justice system, and does not desire its sanction. Batman is not an argument for legalizing torture. If you want to make that argument, you need to examine Jim Gordon. Batman does not tell you how to run a society or how to deal with other people. In fact, the dysfunction of the Bat-family/society is a common theme of the comic books. Batman is not and cannot be an argument for any government, right or left. Superman is your man for that. He's the one interested in the effect that his actions have on society. Batman just wants to knock out the punk taking the old lady's handbag. (Every once in a while you get hints in the comics books that demonstrable involvement by the Batman in a criminal case is enough to get charges thrown out of court. This idea, the logical opposite of the ridiculous image of a masked man testifying in court, is underexplored.)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not really interested in arguing politics here. In fact, I would be &lt;i&gt;deeply&lt;/i&gt; interested in a conservative reading or re-imagining of the Batman. It just has to be better than Limbaugh's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any takers?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-1051351997553050835?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/1051351997553050835/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=1051351997553050835&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1051351997553050835'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1051351997553050835'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-batman-conservative.html' title='Is Batman a conservative?'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-8993491506431777903</id><published>2008-07-28T02:40:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-28T03:24:42.211-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>The Star Wars Prequels</title><content type='html'>Gosh, what couldn't be said about these? I'll try not to dwell on the obvious flaws or contradictions, but suggest alternatives instead. After all, nobody &lt;i&gt;wanted &lt;/i&gt;these movies to disappoint, but I think Lucas left a lot on the table to work with. I'll take a multi-tiered approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Make one movie. &lt;/b&gt;The story that's absolutely essential to see is how Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader, how the Jedi are defeated, the Empire comes to dominate the galaxy, Luke and Leia are born, and the rebellion gets started, plus maybe some clarification on what "the clone wars" are all about. Virtually all of that happens in the last movie in the trilogy. Nobody was pining for the story of Qui-Gonn Jinn or Jar-Jar Binks or how Boba Fett's dad died. So, condense your action, trim the inessential, make one movie, and hire Steven Spielberg to direct it. Make it the best movie in decades and move on with your life.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tell more than one story. &lt;/b&gt;If you have to make three movies, to walk your way up to "Episode IV," they don't &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; have to be about Darth Vader. We can see Han Solo's backstory, follow Princess Leia through her youth, watch Yoda and Obi-Wan and Mace Windu confront the Sith and, you know, &lt;i&gt;be people&lt;/i&gt;. Part of the strength of the original trilogy is that it's able to track several characters and stories simultaneously: it's not all Luke, all the time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Okay, if you insist.&lt;/b&gt; If it must be principally about Vader, cast everyone older and shift all of the action forward. Anakin's age in each of the trilogy should roughly correspond to Luke's, tracking from his late teens to early thirties. I mean, is Vader only supposed to be in his mid-forties during the original trilogy, but Obi-Wan has somehow aged to the point where Tarkin thinks it's impossible for him to be alive? I'd cast Kenneth Branagh as Obi-Wan, and have him or Qui-Gonn or whomever find Anakin as a teenager. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I think the whole Buddhist attachment-is-suffering arc is fine, so play out that whole thing from the second movie where he kills the Tuscan Raiders as revenge for his mom right away. Anakin needs to be dark and powerful and spooky right away. You could essentially merge most of the action of the first two movies; go straight to the clone armies. The whole trilogy should be the Clone Wars.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;This would be a natural way to introduce Padme; she discovers the development of the clone army and disappears, Yoda sends Obi-Wan to retrieve her, he crashes on Tatooine, finds the young pilot Anakin and begins to train him, they discover the clones, retrieve Padme, sparks fly with Anakin, Palpatine plays the whole thing off, end it with a big clones and Jedi vs. droids and Darth Maul battle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There's no way Anakin builds Threepio -- a protocol droid built by a child on a desert planet? -- but he could probably build R2-D2; a childish, impudent droid with way more capabilities than an average R2 unit, and who's a perfect swiss-army-knife assistant for a pilot and Jedi.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The second movie in my trilogy would be a lot like the third in Lucas's. Anakin and Padme are already having a secret relationship -- no need for longing looks and rolling around in fields -- and Anakin is frustrated to be underneath Obi-Wan when he knows he's already a more powerful Jedi. Palpatine turns Anakin to the dark side, together they destroy the Jedi, Obi-Wan and Anakin fight, lava, etc. Padme, pregnant, flees as Obi-Wan and Yoda try to hide her.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;My third movie would be new, and help fill in the gaps between &lt;i&gt;Revenge of the Sith&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;A New Hope&lt;/i&gt;. Structurally, it would be a lot like &lt;i&gt;The Empire Strikes Back&lt;/i&gt;, insofar as it would be Vader and the Empire in pursuit and the nascent rebellion on the run. The essential conceit is that you need to follow Darth Vader -- Vader, not Anakin -- as he pieces together his broken body, builds his suit and the Imperial fleet, clashes with Yoda and Obi-Wan, and searches the galaxy for Padme and (he thinks) his child. Vader wouldn't be a hero, exactly, nor would be a villain. He would be something else, a dark protagonist -- fighting the Empire's military almost as often as the remnants of the Jedi, dismissing the Death Star as a mere "technological terror," trying to find a way to throw off Palpatine's yoke. You would have a much clearer sense of the context of his character going into the original trilogy, the mentality of the Sith, the emergence of both the Empire and the Rebellion, etc. Here you can introduce a young Chewie, Han, Lando, if you wish; you close with a major battle between Vader and Palpatine, Yoda and Obi-Wan where Palpatine becomes disfigured, Obi-Wan and Yoda are presumed dead (but are able to escape), Padme dies, and Obi-Wan and Yoda hide the children. At this point, Vader's hopes of overthrowing the Empire, reuniting with Padme, and bringing order to the galaxy are lost, so he fumes and pursues the rest of the rebellion... until he discovers Luke, which changes everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-8993491506431777903?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/8993491506431777903/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=8993491506431777903&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8993491506431777903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/8993491506431777903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/star-wars-prequels.html' title='The Star Wars Prequels'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-962292214654163893</id><published>2008-07-25T22:08:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-25T22:23:52.177-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Classics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homer'/><title type='text'>The Lost Books Of The Odyssey</title><content type='html'>Over at &lt;a href="http://short-schrift.blogspot.com/2008/07/plug-plug-plug-plug-plug.html"&gt;my other blog&lt;/a&gt; I joked about how even though this site so far was mostly about superheroes and Star Wars, I was working on an alternate ending to &lt;i&gt;The Odyssey&lt;/i&gt;. Little did I know, though, that one Zachary Mason, just this year, published a book, &lt;i&gt;The Lost Books of the Odyssey&lt;/i&gt;, that does precisely that. Here's one of ther eview excerpts on &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Books-Odyssey-Novel/dp/097888115X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1217034135&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;the book's Amazon page&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mason un-grounds the Odyssey, often gorgeously, turning Homer's twisting tale into a sermon on indeterminacy. He allows this grand myth of homecoming no beginning or end, just banks of fog, endless mirrors, Borgesian labyrinths.... He has Homer dream of refineries. He sends Odysseus to China, to Hades, to psychoanalysis. He makes him a sorcerer and Achilles a golem crafted from river mud and a slave girl's blood. He lets Odysseus return to Ithaca to find it abandoned, to find Penelope a ghost, or worse, married to a fat old man . . . it had never occurred to him that she would just give up. Odysseus' journeys never end. Or maybe they never begin. Maybe, instead, the war never ends, and Agamemnon ages in a fortress dug beneath Troy's sand beaches that expands dendritically, sending off new shoots in all directions as avalanches reclaim whole wings. Mason delights in doubles, spirals, conceptual mazes and Möbius strips. He is only occasionally too clever. Mainly, he is a wondrous pleasure to read. --Ben Ehrenreich, Los Angeles Times &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doesn't that sound awesome? Hat tip to &lt;a href="http://littleprofessor.typepad.com/the_little_professor/2008/07/this-weeks-ac-3.html"&gt;The Little Professor&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-962292214654163893?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/962292214654163893/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=962292214654163893&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/962292214654163893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/962292214654163893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lost-books-of-odyssey.html' title='The Lost Books Of The Odyssey'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-3562539905906291590</id><published>2008-07-23T14:54:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-23T15:38:01.044-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>The Real Thing</title><content type='html'>This is a little late, but &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Wired&lt;/span&gt; made a &lt;a href="http://feeds.wired.com/%7Er/wired/index/%7E3/341149668/gallery_star_wars_remakes"&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; of the best Star Wars remakes/condensations, including homemade and sweded movies, the Lego Star Wars video games, and the always-popular &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM854BTGL0"&gt;Star Wars According To A Three-Year Old&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of these, I think my favorites are the Lego Star Wars games, which have an unusual quality -- not only are there new lego-based gags, but some of the action is condensed and simplified, while other parts are filled in or lengthened out to extend the gameplay. This seems like an interesting problem for any kind of counterfictional -- what do you omit, what do you keep, what do you extend and expand?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-3562539905906291590?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/3562539905906291590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=3562539905906291590&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3562539905906291590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/3562539905906291590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/real-thing.html' title='The Real Thing'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-6835767486633511319</id><published>2008-07-17T22:20:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-17T23:01:29.045-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Star Wars'/><title type='text'>Han Solo Has the Force</title><content type='html'>This is my thesis, which at least apparently contradicts what we are given about his character in the released films, but actually seems to confirm some facts and resolve some contradictions therein. Han Solo has the Force.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me clarify what I mean. I mean that Han Solo is sufficiently strong in the force that he can perform acts that would otherwise be impossible; that, in Obi-Wan's formulation, he is partially guided by it in his actions but that it also responds to his commands. If Han Solo were younger and had been trained to use the Force, he could have been a powerful Jedi; instead, he simply becomes the last of the Jedis' most important ally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Han Solo does things that are otherwise impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Luke and Vader (especially young Anakin) are remarkable, inventive pilots, as is Lando, but Han blows them all away. In one scene after another in &lt;i&gt;Empire&lt;/i&gt;, Han is able to perform feats that Artoo or Threepio say are mathematically near-impossible. He does this in a ship that has a remarkable warp-speed computer but which appears singularly unsuited for close-quarters maneuveurs. Finally, he gets the drop on Vader in Episode IV, and while Vader may have been distracted by his sensations re: Luke, this is still evidence that we are dealing with a very special pilot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Han Solo can communicate with his mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seriously, how are we supposed to otherwise believe that Han can talk with Chewbacca, Greedo, Jabba, and every other alien he meets? Jabba needs an interpreter (Threepio) to talk to Luke, the Princess, etc.; but Solo can talk English to him and Jabba can talk Hutt back? Han's communication abilities fall well outside any "he was raised by Wookies" ad hoc hypotheses. Note that Leia, too, possesses amazing communication abilities, able to impersonate a bounty hunter and communicate nonverbally with Ewoks, along with her ability to telepathically connect with Luke. But Leia's also got the Force, son.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This also suggests that different people strong in the force have different strengths and weaknesss. The Princess is a fair shot in combat, but her strength is in mental communication and resistance to the same. Luke is a great physical fighter, Yoda a manipulator of the universe, Obi-Wan skulks and sneaks around, Palpatine experiments with life, dominates underlings, and deals in pain. Vader can do almost everything, but even he is best known for his piloting ability and his gift for crushing windpipes. Solo can fly, dodge, shoot, and talk to the Universe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Han Solo denies believing in the force, but his denials sound like confirmations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Han says (I'm paraphrasing) "I've gone from one end of the galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's some all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no force controlling my destiny, that's for sure." At this, Obi-Wan laughs to himself. But the way Han poses the question is one of control. Han doesn't feel bound or controlled by the force, because he can use it, albeit unconsciously. Han doesn't believe in odds; he thinks he's been lucky, but as Obi-Wan says, "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise, there's no way Obi-Wan gets on just any ship willing to take him and Luke to Alderaan. He's played dumb before, but he knows exactly who Han and Chewie are and what the Millenium Falcon is. If he's going to save the Princess from Vader and make it to Alderaan with the stolen Death Star plans and Vader's son in tow, he's going to need a pilot who's strong in the force. And he may have found the strongest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Han Solo has no parents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This I'm actually taking from Wikipedia's summary of the extra-cinematic books on Solo's origin, but essentially he's an orphan on Corellia. Right in his name, it tells you that he's self-generated. Now, let's see... who else in the Star Wars universe is born into poverty under mysterious circumstances with crazy-ass piloting skills? Now, if you buy the suggestion in &lt;i&gt;Return of the Sith&lt;/i&gt; that Palpatine somehow made Anakin -- that is, manipulated the mitichlorians (groan) into bringing him into being -- isn't it possible that Han Solo is another one of Palpatine's experiments? A gifted pilot, strong in the force, strong enough maybe to defeat Vader were Vader ever to turn on him? But this experiment got out of Palpatine's control, the child was lost, to piracy and smuggling, only to turn up one day on the Death Star's doorstep. All five of them -- Luke, Leia, Vader, Obi-Wan, and Han: very nearly destroyed together. Instead, Palpatine is left to play out his Sith triangle with Vader and Luke. Oh well. C'est la vie.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-6835767486633511319?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/6835767486633511319/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=6835767486633511319&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/6835767486633511319'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/6835767486633511319'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/han-solo-has-force.html' title='Han Solo Has the Force'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-1563195115310349169</id><published>2008-07-17T15:08:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-17T15:16:09.752-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Superman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Dialogue on Superman and Batman: May 22, 2008</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: SO why do you like &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; so much?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Me? Who said I did?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:52 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Don't you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I had a powerful childhood attachment to a &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; doll.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: It's like a Beatles/Elvis thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;/Batman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;And I thought you were on the &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; side of the question.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:53 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Because of that, I've been given many &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; objects.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Ah.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:54 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I probably prefer Batman as a character.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;My favorite childhood superhero (say, 4+) was Spider-man.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Well, that makes the discussion much less fun. :-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:55 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I had glow-in-the-dark Spider-Man pajamas, that I got for my fifth birthday. They were awesome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;I also really liked Voltron then too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: I find &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; much less resonant than Batman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: There's something appealing about &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;'s terminal quality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:56 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He's like Saint Anselm's God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: And I can elucidate my reasons for being interested in Batman as an icon, but I've been looking for some insight into Suprman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: There's a good cartoon that I watched that has a nice take on &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: I've been interested in the way in which when &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; and Batman are at odds, Batman seems to win far more than his share.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: It's Justice League: The New Frontier.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: And I wonder how much of that is narrative necessity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:57 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Well, &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; rarely has to exert himself strategically.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: It Batman and &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; are really fighting, and &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; is to win, then there's not much left of Batman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: It's all about how he's going to overpower you. While Batman has to rely on a different set of skills and strategies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:58 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: You seem to like that "New Frontier" cartoon. I've avoided it as not being part of the Bruce Timm DC universe, but I haven't really heard all that much about it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: If &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; regularly fought people who fought like Batman, it would be different.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;I only saw the New Frontier cartoon a few days ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;2:59 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;I've previously spoken favorably of &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;: Doomsday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: I've heard just a little more about that one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: The crappy part of Frontier is the villain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:00 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; only really fights people with overwhelming power, people with no power at all, or people who trick and trap him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;You'd think he would be better at detecting tricks and traps.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;But now, he always charges in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: With X-Ray vision? Yes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:01 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: And super-senses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;You'd think he'd be able to hear or smell Kryptonite gas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: You know, if I were ever to write a Batman/&lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;, I think I'd have to explore &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;/Clark Kent and Batman stripped of Bruce Wayne.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:02 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: The other thing to wonder about is why &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; is so impotent. It's almost as though he has a psychological aversion to using his full powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He's always reining it in, like a boy embarassed by his erections.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: One, depending on the &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; characterization, doesn't seem to make sense. Why does &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; need a secret identity? He has (almost) no vulnerabilities? What does he have to gain?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:03 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Presumably he's trying to observe and understand people, and he wants to have friends, a romantic life, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Batman is almost the reverse. He gains too much from his secret identity. Unlimited funds, friends everywhere, the ability to buy and build anything, and keep trophies of everything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:04 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Yes, and I think that would lead &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;superman&lt;/span&gt; to spend most of his time as Clark Kent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Yet at the same time, "Bruce Wayne" is a much bigger farce than "Clark Kent."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Which he may actually "do" in the comics, but not in terms of panel time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Yes, and thus why bother maintaining something so cares so little about?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:05 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: What Batman should really do is fake Bruce Wayne's death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:06 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Put Alfred or Barbara Gordon in charge of the company and be Batman full time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Well, again, I like the idea of Batman being stripped of Bruce Wayne, the secret getting out, at least to people who matter, and limiting Wayne's access to resources.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;And Batman continuing to wear the mask not because it keeps a secret, but because it is his face.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:07 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;In that way, not just Batman but Bruce Wayne himself becomes part of the urban legend.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Also, get rid of the Bat-Signal, and the Batmobile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:08 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: The biographical Bruce Wayne really is Batman, while the biogra[hical Kal-El is a version of Clark Kent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: In a sense, but again, I like your idea of Supes being &lt;b&gt;ashamed&lt;/b&gt; of his powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:09 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;To the point where it pains him to put on the cape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Clark Kent is actually a strange double-blind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Becuase &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; is a mask.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;And clumsy, mild-mannered Clark Kent in Metropolis is a mask.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:10 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Clark on the farm in Kansas is what you're referring to as the biographical Clark Kent/Kal-El.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;In a sense, Supes hides even more than Bats.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Bats is really Bats in the cape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:11 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Supes is only really himself when he's visiting the farm in Smallville.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: That's why Batman increasingly wears the costume when he&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;'s in the Batcave.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;By himself, alone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;In a mask and cape.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: I think the costume could stand a redesign too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:12 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I can think of two reasons why Kal-El would be ashamed of his powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Something a cross between Batman Year One, and Batman Year 100.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Which are both good takes on Bats.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: First, he's been conditioned to hide them for so long, that he has to overcome psychological resistence to using them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;This is the sort of "ashamed of his own erection" theory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;The other is the primal trauma.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: But Kal-El's shame is more than just his powers. Kal-El is nearly &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; hiding.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:13 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt;'s powers are a direct result of the destruction of his planet and the death of his parents and every other member of his race.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;His powers make him an outsider to humans, but an outsider to Kryptonians, too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: But that's something he knows about, but doesn't remember.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;At least in my take.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;My take would be--no other Kryptonites.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Still, he's forced to acknowledge it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:14 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: No Supergirl, no bottle city of Kandor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: It's not like other Kryptonians had the same powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Not even ma &amp;amp; pa Kent know much about Krypton, and they don't understand &amp;amp; aren't interested in what they know.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;It's alien, literally.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Everything &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; does is an effort to make meaning out of that loss.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:15 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Just like Batman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;But while Batman hardens himself against his own feelings of vulnerability, &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; does the opposite.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He is wary of and maybe even resentful towards his powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Yeah, but in all truth, I like Batman not so much as a man driven by the death of his parents, but as himself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Not least because without them, he and the Kents could just pretend.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:16 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: He would have been Batman, in one slightly different shape or another regardless.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Ah, but I like the home-ness of Clark using his powers on his farm.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I don't remember which thing I read, but I always liked the idea that Bruce Wayne comes up against a bizarre wish-fulfillment -- he wanted his parents to die. He wishes he were the criminal who killed them. That's why he becomes one of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:17 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: There's a solitude on the farm, a separation that means that he usually doesn't have to pretend.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;The wish fulfillment thing gets played with a lot, but often in contrast to a villian that's a mirror image of Bruce.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Both Hush and The Black Mask are like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Have that sort of a back story.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:18 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: But see, if you give Kal-El the same psychological depth, then you have to grant that there's at least some element of resentment towards the Kents.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Yes!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Even if it's awkward, pubescent resentment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Alienation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span class="nfakPe"&gt;Superman&lt;/span&gt; has to be seen as a kind of perpetual teenager.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:19 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Which becomes self-alienation, because what separates Kal-El from the Kents is somthing he himself doesn't really understand, because there's absolutely no one to explain it to him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: All of the plays on son and sun -- the sun gives him his powers, the sun killed his parents.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: The rural gay teenager that thinks that he's the only one in the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Chunks of his home world continue to poison him, yet that's all he wants to return to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:20 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Except Kal-El &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; the only one of him in the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;(Also, fewer other superheroes.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: and none as powerful and alien as he is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Maybe The Flash, Green Lantern, but that's about it. Just Supes and Bats.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:21 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: I like the idea of a rel btw supes and j'onn j'onnz.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Not many supervillians either.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:22 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Luthor and the Joker would be allowed, because they have no powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;The Martian Manhunter has never been a character that I've been terribly aware of.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He again, almost has too many powers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:23 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He can fly AND he's strong AND he can shapeshift AND he can read minds?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Too much.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:24 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Yeah, it's kind of a grab bag.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:25 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;But he's the other superpowerful alien from a dead world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: and infinitely more mature than Kal-El.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Ha!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;True.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: If more obviously scarred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:26 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;John lost his children.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Yeah, but his secret identity is an old, pulpy trench-coat detective.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Boring.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:27 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Batman has a great line in the Frontier cartoon:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: The cartoon rightfully ignored it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: "With the other one I need to lug around a 70,000 dollar radioactive rock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:28 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: :-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: "With you, all I need is a dime for a pack of matches."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: With J'onzz I just need a pack of matches.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Yeah, that's what I thought it would be. :-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:29 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;me&lt;/span&gt;: Again, that's what makes Batman different.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He always has a plan to kill everyone he knows.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;He's like the RAND corporation of superheroes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;3:30 PM &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em; text-indent: -1em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Gavin&lt;/span&gt;: Yeah, Batman knows everything about everyone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; float: left; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; padding-left: 6em;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;And even has a plan to take himself down.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-1563195115310349169?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/1563195115310349169/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=1563195115310349169&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1563195115310349169'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/1563195115310349169'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/dialogue-on-superman-and-batman.html' title='Dialogue on Superman and Batman: May 22, 2008'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-5998256909737759451</id><published>2008-07-16T14:17:00.009-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-17T08:47:50.891-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batman'/><title type='text'>Let's start with the Bat</title><content type='html'>In honor of the upcoming &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/"&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, and in the hopes that Heath Ledger's performance changes the way I look at the Joker forever, here are five key traits of Batman's world, according to Gavin. (Most of my ideas are tweaks and expansions, rather than purely original, so sources will be cited.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Bruce Wayne is the mask. Batman is the real identity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a number of sources for this idea, but the first place I heard it articulated was by Kevin Conroy, who did Batman/Bruce Wayne's voice for the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Batman Animated Series&lt;/span&gt;. I would go a bit further and play with the idea of Bruce Wayne being just one of Batman's masks. There is some precedent for this in the comics: Matches Malone, Lefty Knox. Batman can be anyone, anywhere. Paranoia is at least as powerful as physical intimidation. The man you've worked with for years, your best friend, could be the Bat. The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Bruce Wayne: Fugitive&lt;/span&gt; storyline also plays with the idea of a Batman without Bruce Wayne, and the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Over the Edge&lt;/span&gt; episode of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Batman Animated Series&lt;/span&gt; provides another key to that door. Batman would still be Batman even if the Bruce Wayne mask were taken away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Never during the day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a throw-off line from Frank Miller's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Batman: Year One&lt;/span&gt;, which writers ignore at their peril. The Bat doesn't make public appearances. He doesn't testify in court. The only time you will ever see him is when he takes you down or saves your life, and even then, only for a moment. The Bat only works as a secret, a rumor, a myth. The Bat can never be captured, tied up, or examined under light. The mask is flimsy, and the only way to keep someone from pulling it off is to wear it sparingly. Other masks (see #1) are more durable, and just as useful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The utility belt has a finite number of pouches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Batman: Year 100&lt;/span&gt; has the best take on this. Making Bruce Wayne a man with unlimited resources is ultimately a mistake. Batman is interesting only in his limitations. No superpowers. The only available tools are what he can carry &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;silently&lt;/span&gt;. In this spirit, there is no Batmobile. (Also see #2.) Batman does not travel in a marked car that stops at traffic lights and signals left turns. If he drives, it is in an unmarked car, without the mask. Motorcycles make more sense, since a helmet is a mask, but still only something plain and unmarked. Something that can be abandoned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. There is something deeply wrong with Batman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grant Morrison's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Arkham Asylum&lt;/span&gt; is a good source for this. Batman can't be written as totally crazy, because the sense of right and wrong is so essential, but Batman is so hell-bent on rightness, on structure because of something missing inside of himself. He has to spend every moment of his life building order out of chaos because he doesn't have that order inside of him. Detective fiction is also instructional: Batman is obsessive/compulsive (look at his trophy room in the Batcave), and either a bit autistic or sociopathic. He can't forget and constantly has to organize the information in his head before he loses his place. He can't relate to people, but is a tremendous actor. He's jarringly detached, but he can never let go of anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Jason Todd&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was Robin. He died. He's dead. Bringing Jason Todd back was the worst decision a Batman writer has ever made, and that's saying a lot. The false Jason Todd in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hush&lt;/span&gt; storyline is interesting. Jason Todd really being alive is not. Losing a Robin, and the guilt Batman feels (or doesn't feel?) about it is key to his character. His inability to stop using a sidekick is key, too. Hell, at the time she replaced Tim Drake, Batman didn't even like Stephanie Brown. Why do children keep seeking the Batman out, and why is he, the strongest will in the DC universe, unable to say no?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the future, I'd like to revisit individual elements of the Batman—the costume, the villains, Gotham, the origin story—and examine what changes and what says consistent. (Hopefully I can dig up some nice images for some of these topics.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As evidenced by the various Elseworlds titles, the Batman mythos is hugely productive. There are a million ways to take the basic elements of the mythos and translate them to a variety of situations. I'd like to posit the (hopefully) controversial thesis that Superman doesn't work in the same way. With the exception of Mark Millar's outstanding &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Red Son&lt;/span&gt;, I'm not aware of a wealth of really interesting variant superman stories. Anybody want to call me on that?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-5998256909737759451?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/5998256909737759451/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=5998256909737759451&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5998256909737759451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/5998256909737759451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/lets-start-with-bat.html' title='Let&apos;s start with the Bat'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09902304588711972110</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='31' src='http://www.msu.edu/~craiggav/nib1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4940294027836195258.post-7913167696319442250</id><published>2008-07-16T11:23:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-17T08:46:48.002-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theory'/><title type='text'>Why Counterfictionals?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Fictions already run counter to fact. Counterfactuals, in logic, philosophy, or history, imagine an alternative possible world, to test a theory, to prove an argument about contingency and necessity, or merely to explore the question, "What if?," like the Marvel comic book title.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The same approach can be taken to fiction, to imagine a book or a story where proper names still single out the same individuals but everything else is different. A book other than the book, a fictional fiction other than the fact of fiction. Fiction has its theories to be tested and other worlds to be explored.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So with counterfiction we ask "what if?" to our favorite stories, books, comics, and films, for fun and (non) profit. Some of our counterfictions we will write ourselves, and other entries will discuss counterfictions found in the wild. The point is to try to open up just a little more imaginative space in works of the imagination, and to make fiction live in fiction a little more brightly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/4940294027836195258-7913167696319442250?l=counterfictionals.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/feeds/7913167696319442250/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4940294027836195258&amp;postID=7913167696319442250&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/7913167696319442250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4940294027836195258/posts/default/7913167696319442250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://counterfictionals.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-counterfictionals.html' title='Why Counterfictionals?'/><author><name>Tim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13026955797817424956</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_i7YncY_VhDg/SH4Xufff3cI/AAAAAAAAAEk/VSb9HneH018/S220/IMG_2614.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
